Here are the minutes of the quarterly KTNF Committee Meetings:
KENTISH TOWN NEIGHBOURHOOD FORUM
Committee Meeting – 7pm – 9pm, Thursday 9 May 2019 at: The Vine, 86 Highgate Road, NW5 1PB
Present: Roger Winfield (chair), Henry Herzberg (deputy chair), Paul Seviour (treasurer), Ian Grant (secretary), Celia Goreham, Chris Hudson, Robert Livock
In attendance: Alice Brown (advisor)
Liz Sheridan, Elizabeth Woodeson, Fabrizio Lepore, Joanna Chow, Derek Jarman and Judith Leeb.
2 Conflicts of interest:
3 Minutes of last meeting (7 February) and matters arising:
Nothing raised; minutes approved.
4 Chair’s report (RW)
February: Met Brian O’Donnell, Strategic Lead Planning Policy at Camden Council, with Ian Grant to discuss the problems managing consultations;
Met Deborah Bush, Community Sport and Physical Activity Manager at Camden Council, with Ian Grant, Jacob Willson, Principal Planner Supporting Communities involved with the Kentish Town planning framework to discuss KTNF’s recommendation that the development area in the planning framework contain a dedicated indoor sports centre with facilities for sports not covered elsewhere in Kentish Town such as cricket;
Met Celeste Giusti, Principal Strategic Planner, London Plan Team, Development, Enterprise & Environment at the GLA with Henry Herzberg to press KTNF’s case for a meeting with the Deputy Mayor to explain our policy for Regis Road and Murphy’s.
March: Dealing with Car Wash site planning application. Consulting with committee, analysing responses, writing and submitting KTNF’s comments;
Met Simon Pitkeathley of Camden Town Unlimited with Paul Seviour, Judith Leeb and Alice Brown to learn about Business Improvement Districts and imaginative use of vacant buildings;
Attended 2nd meeting organised by KTRA and Transition Kentish Town to discuss the future of the high street. Also present from KTNF, Ian Grant, Paul Seviour, Joanna Chow, Liz Woodeson and Judith Leeb;
Pubs as ACVs working group. Agreeing necessary actions following advice and requirements of Camden.
April: Addressed Planning Committee of London Assembly about Kentish Town Neighbourhood Plan, involving two prior conversations with Nicky Gavron (chair) and preparing address;
Work on KTNF’s comments on Dartmouth Park Neighbourhood Forum’s proposed Plan;
Met Darren Reiss of Regis Road at his request with Henry Herzberg for update on Framework from a landowner’s perspective;
Update from developer of Pizza Express building after chasing by phone and email. Delay because Camden’s case officer left but now proceeding with finalising s106 agreement and hope to be on site this month. Didn’t respond to my question about the cinema.
May: Met Jacob Willson with Henry Herzberg for update on Planning Framework
Finalising and submitting comments on DPNF proposed Plan.
5 Kentish Town draft development framework update (HH)
Stage 2 of the Development Framework consultation was presented in March. Camden says the final version will be published by the end of the year. There will be one light touch final consultation prior to this. The final document is set to be shorter than the present draft. Comment that the final version doesn’t need to be too prescriptive and developers need some leeway.
Consultation responses – sympathetic to plans. KTNF comments on first draft largely adopted. Summary – foster knowledge and creative areas; training on site; people object to high buildings – 10 storeys maximum (6, 8 or 10 range of buildings); Camden currently concentrating on transport infrastructure and deliverability; important to have decent links in and out of the site; Camden has CPO powers and can use them;
Met with Darren Reiss a building freeholder on the Regis Road site who expressed frustration at being unable to do anything until the Framework Plan for the Development Area is finished.
Stories that a couple of companies are moving out. But UPS looks like it is staying after buying the freehold.
Responded to Dartmouth Park Neighbourhood Plan – some areas of conflict
6 Car Wash site update (RW)
Committee considered the proposals – strong views; major focus on the design and height; currently developer and town planner consulting with affordable housing consultant and need an archaeological report. No plans to reduce current height. Developers report they spent substantial sum to date; hoping to go to committee in June. Pavement widened, but not notified by Camden.
7 Update on planters on Kentish Town Road and CIL (IG)
The planters are being watered regularly. But concerns over rubbish collection. Camden Council invited (KTNF and community groups) to plant hyacinths late summer.
Action: Contact Camden over unstable feet in some of the planters and rubbish collection IG
Action: Write to Danny Beales asking how CIL money has been spent over the financial year and how much CIL money is available this financial year IG
8 Pubs as Assets of Community Value – progress report (RW)
Camden need more information from customers, regulars, how many events and their frequency. Questionnaires for the 15 pubs have been printed and the sub-committee is organising to go back to the pubs in question and talk to managers and set in train the questions being answered.
Point raised in this discussion whether the council can clean-up shop frontages (scrub or paint – and whether CIL money can be made available. Examples of other High Streets being transformed, for example Archway – where Islington Council bore half the cost.
Action: Ask Danny Beales whether CIL money can be used to clean-up the High Street IG
9 The High Street and Future of High Street (IG)
Initiatives from Future of the High Street meetings. People are working on the following:
Future High Street Plastic-Free Shops; Library of Things & Ideas; Multi-Generational Integration.
TRANSPORT & PARKING Short-stay parking on Regis Rd; Night–time deliveries, and Co-ordination of deliveries; No cars with only one passenger.
BUSINESS / LANDLORD CONTRIBUTION Annual Street Party and Festive Lights; Kentish Town Business Alliance; Pop-up shops in empty premises.
OPPORTUNITY FOR YOUTH
KT App for young people; Pop-up Board Game Shop; Plan business hours once a month to provide enterprise for youth.
STREET LANDSCAPE Green Wall; Notice Board; Plaques; Clutter, Database of advertisement licensing.
STREET FUN Kentish Town Plinth; Piano and Exercise bars.
High Street Fund
Application for national High Street Fund; KTNF (Ian Grant, Joanna Chow and Judith Leeb) linked with KTRA to work with Camden Council on applying for a National High Street Fund – which allocates substantial funds to upgrade High Streets. Sought approval from other Kentish Town groups and residents’ associations.
Concepts include viability, inclusion and movement. Goals to drive footfall and creating new enterprises that increase community wealth, employment and new market demand for commercial space. Specifics include funding improved pedestrian and cycle permeability; improving identity; smart infrastructure improvements; engagement of stakeholders, enabling modal shift and improving air quality. Application has been submitted. Wait to see if successful to go to second stage.
10 Planning applications various (PS)
Fortess Road (next to Tally Ho site) – planning application for three delipidated buildings; retail on ground floor, residential above; heights similar to adjoining buildings; KTNF in favour of developing buildings – but have concerns about the designs.
Discussion on whether KTNF should adopt non-residential development on ground floor of secondary shopping areas; another proposal for a house next to take away fish restaurant; is Article 4 direction needed?
Pizza Express – Camden officer responsible has left; slight amendment; on-site this month; finalising Section 106 agreement; no update on cinema – but in still planning condition.
No updates on Spring Place or Carpetright
Camden Gardens – Simon Pithkenly of Camden Unlimited has received £25,000 to develop land at Camden Gardens, as part of Highline. Art competition set up with architects. Outside the KTNF area; KTNF do not want to participate in judging panel as committee believes it has a sufficient work load..
Committee agree to a brainstorming away day to discuss operations and future. General agreement Saturday would be best day. RW
12 Dates of next meetings:18 July and 7 November
Committee Meeting – 7pm – 9pm, Thursday 7 February 2019 at: The Vine, 86, Highgate Road, NW5 1PB
Present: Roger Winfield, Henry Herzberg (Skype), Paul Seviour, Ian Grant, Chris Hudson, Robert Livock, Derek Jarman, Judith Leeb, Joanna Chow.
In attendance: Alice Brown
Liz Sheridan, Liz Woodeson
Absent: Celia Goreham, Fabrizio Lepore.
2 Conflicts of interest:
A reminder to be circumspect with KTNF business given that some committee members, by default, are also members of other local and community organisations.
3 Welcome to new committee members:
Liz Woodeson and Judith Leeb.
4 Election of officers:
Roger Winfield (chair), Henry Herzberg (deputy chair), Paul Seviour (treasurer) and Ian Grant (secretary) are willing to serve again. Any other candidates asked notify KTNF secretary with the position standing for. No notifications received. Robert proposed the four candidates standing; Chris seconded.
5 Minutes of last meeting (8 November) and matters arising:
6 Chair’s report (RW)
Attended Draft KTDA Framework Exhibition in Library.
Attended Future of High Street meeting (see below).
Car Wash site – KTNF has had several meetings with developers; have listened to KTNF suggestions; plans for site exhibited in Library (see below).
AGM – Packed meeting on 24th January at Kentish Town Library.
ACV meeting with Camden; forms for 16 pubs submitted. More work needed (see below).
7 Kentish Town development framework consultation (HH)
Working Group convened to prepare KTNF response (Paul, Ian, Chris, Liz, Alice, Roger); included plan for dedicated sports hall for the site along with suggested word changes. KTNF’s comments on the revised plans in the draft have been submitted (see previous minutes). Following meeting with Middlesex CC about promoting cricket; meeting arranged with Camden Council head of Sport.
ACTION: Send KTRA’s KTDA response to new committee members: Liz W and Judith (RW)
ACTION: Meet with Camden’s Head of Sport to discuss plans in February (RW)
8 Update on planters on Kentish Town Road and CIL (IG)
Fifteen larger Nomad planters were installed last week in January. Smaller Bikelock planters installed the week before. Camden says snagging work still to do, feet adjustment etc;
9 Pubs as Assets of Community Value – progress report (RW)
Application forms for 16 pubs In KTNF area have been submitted to Camden. Camden Council is advising on what more information is required, including more evidence of community benefit.
ACTION: Further liaison with Camden (RW, CH, PS)
10 Car Wash site (RW/HH)
The Design Review Panel response to the proposals has been positive; a win for KTNF. Exhibition of the plans presented at Kentish Town Library.
11 Planning applications (PS)
Spring Place – application went in early last year. KTNF submitted response. A new application has gone in – different to the previous one.
ACTION: KTNF to comment on (PS)
Old HSBC Bank site – application for change of use from A2 Finance to A1 shop to ice cream parlour sundaes and crepes etc.). KTNF has no objection. A1 use promoted in Plan.
Consultation on Estate Agent’s boards: known as a Regulation 7 Direction; powers to regulate estate agents boards are limited to certain Conservation Areas; option 1: to extend the Direction so Camden can regulate estate agents boards across the whole borough; option 2: extend the Direction so Camden can regulate estate agents boards to all conservation areas and all town centres; option 3: renew the Directions in the following areas – Belsize Park, Redington & Frognal, Fitzjohns & Netherhall conservation areas. These are non-permanent Directions which Camden can apply to renew.
Consultation: https://consultations.wearecamden.org/culture-environment/control-of-estate-agents-boards/ closing date for comments and photographs is Tuesday 26 February.
12 The High Street (IG)
Café style event on 16 January, organised by Transition Kentish Town and KTRA attended by KTNF committee members. Nearly 200 hundred ideas to improve Kentish Town High Street captured. Areas included: Vision for Kentish Town in 5 Years; Vision in 20 Years; Transport and Parking; Contribution of Businesses; Opportunities for Youth; Hub for skills sharing; Street Landscape improvements. Ideas whittled down to around 20 to form the basis for practical action going forward. Another workshop event being planned for March about how the ideas can be put into practice, date to be confirmed.
ACTION: Roger and Ian to meet Patrick Jones, Business Growth Manager, Regeneration and Planning to discuss application to government’s High Street Fund. Caroline Hill of KTRA also attending (RW, IG)
13 AGM 2019 – issues arising including fundraising and consultations:
Responded to email arising about affordable housing (RW); KTNF responding to consultation on Camden’s changes to Supplementary Planning Guidance; meeting with Brian O’Donnell seeking advice on KTNF’s responses to consultations generally, and expectations.
ACTION: Meeting with Brian O’Donnell on planning matters and consultations (RW, IG)
Consultation on internal boundary changes in Camden; Gospel Oak Railway line and Lady Somerset Road marks new KT ward boundary. Murphy site falls in new Highgate ward.
http://www.lgbce.org.uk/all-reviews/greater-london/greater-london/camden (open until 4 March)
Maiden Lane development – some apartments opened up to short let rentals; Hawley Wharf – some apartments (Camden Living) 85% market rents to young doctors and teachers; also space given to start-up businesses.
KTNF responding to Camden’s Draft Clean Air Action Plan
ACTION: Send KTNF response to Camden (IG) DONE
Consultation leaflet to some properties in Kentish Town which come under the new proposed Heathrow flight path, with different options
Chris to help Ian with pictures for the next KTNF newsletter
15 Dates of committee meetings in 2019: 9 May, 18 July and 7 November
Committee Meeting – 7pm – 9pm, Thursday 8 November 2018 at The Vine, 86 Highgate Road, NW5 1PB
Present: Roger Winfield (chair), Paul Seviour (treasurer), Ian Grant (secretary), Fabrizio Lepore, Liz Sheridan, Chris Hudson, Robert Livock, Celia Goreham, Henry Herzberg (deputy chair),
In attendance: Alice Brown
Apologies: Virginia Beardshaw, Derek Jarman, David Jockelson
Guest: Adam Richards – Camden Town Unlimited (Camden Business Improvement District)
2 Conflicts of interest
Roger stressed that members of the committee are also (by definition) members of other community groups in Kentish Town and urged circumspection in relation to KTNF business
3 Highline: progress report from Adam Richards of Camden Town Unlimited who manage the proposed Camden Highline.
Over £60,000 achieved through initial donations and contributions; Engineers report done; Highline feasible; 25 year lease from Network Rail under negotiation; potential to open up N. London tourist destinations in wider walking route; suits Camden’s growth and well-being agenda; suits TFL plans including new entrances for Camden stations; looking for a mix of grants and contributions to get to planning stage; looking at revenue models post construction; shortest time-frame is 18 months – 2 years for planning; 18 months first phase construction.
ACTION: Adam requested that members sign up to the newsletter and or donate: https://www.camdenhighline.com/
4 Minutes of last meeting (19 July) and matters arising:
Discover location of Camden’s last mile park for delivery lorries and promote to wider list IG – Lorry park where larger distribution vehicles can decant goods to smaller vehicles is in Pakenham Street, London WC1. Camden also told us it is piloting delivery by Cargo bikes, and a newspaper scheme in Kings Cross is proving successful.
Write to TFL asking to extend rent bike scheme to Kentish Town Road RW. Letter received from TFL showing encouragement for a scheme, providing there is some joint capital funding.
ACTION: KTNF to apply for CIL funding for a Santander Docking Station along with more bicycle hoops along Kentish Town Road. DONE
5 Chair’s report (RW)
6 Kentish Town development framework consultation (HH)
Camden released draft consultation for public engagement at the end of October – and runs until 7 December: (https://www.camden.gov.uk/ccm/content/environment/planning-and-built-environment/two/planning-policy/supplementary-planning-documents/planning-frameworks-and-briefs/kentish-town-growth-and-industrial-area-planning-framework.en). KTNF reps have been attending meetings with Camden Council planners and Dartmouth Park NF reps to develop the draft framework. Last one attended by Roger, Henry, Chris and Ian. Roger and Henry met CNJ journalist Dan Carrier to discuss KTNF’s hopes for the framework – article published. (http://camdennewjournal.com/article/kentish-town-regeneration-what-should-be-built-on-biggest-opportunity-site-in-camden?sp=1&sq=Kentish%2520Town%2520Planning%2520Framework)
ACTION: KTNF has organised a committee working party to put in a co-ordinated response to the consultation at The Vine, 24 October 10am.
7 Planters on Kentish Town Road and CIL (IG)
Proposal for planters along Kentish Town Road from KTNF and other community groups (along with 38 emails, comments of support – and three objections) approved unanimously by six councillors on 17 September. Funds coming from Kentish Town CIL (not the KTNF allocation). Fifteen Nomad planters and six bike lock planters (some replacing existing bike planters). Majority on the station entrance side due to pavement widths. Maintenance agreement is part of contract, along with a Camden Council grounds operative to check maintenance is OK. Opinion on colours canvassed – dark blue majority. Ian thanked for work on this.
8 Ingestre planning application (AB)
Architects and design team listened to consultation ideas and reduced the height of the original building, but the result is block-like and a building too big for the site. KTNF responses are to D3A/B/C. Although KTNF in support of policy proving homes for older people, the new design doesn’t meet principles in the KTNF plan. The designers haven’t addressed KTNF concerns – and the conclusion is that KTNF objects to the planning application.
ACTION: Objection to planning application to be submitted AB/RW
9 Pubs as ACVs (PS)
More pubs have been added to the list including Aces & Eights and Rose & Crown, bringing total to 16. ACV application forms are being filled in for each pub indicating, historical, cultural and architectural value. Working party (Roger, Paul, Derek, Chris, Joanna (KTNF), Caroline Hill and Lindsey Purchall (KTRA)) researching all the pubs involved and forms are being submitted.
ACTION: Forms to be submitted to Camden Council
10 Car Wash site (RW)
KTNF successful in persuading Camden planners to consider the Car Wash site separately from Regis Road development (KTPDA). Plans are for 14 flats above the ground floor which is set to be a restaurant as envisaged in the policy for the site in the Neighbourhood Plan. Developer has followed the plans for Car Wash site as outlined in KT plan. Concern was raised by one member about future of employees at Car Wash site.
11 Updates on 3-6 Spring Place (AB) and Carpetright and Pizza Express (VB)
Paul’s email on Carpetright and Pizza Express with update had been circulated to committee earlier. Spring Place update deferred
ACTION: Prepare updates for AGM
12 Planning policy and the future of high street(s) (IG)
Attended a conference on Future of the High Street. Speaker consensus (Trowers & Hamlin, Colliers, Stiff + Trevelyan) that in 5-10 years space needed for current High Street retail outlets would be 50% of what it is now and that the High Street has to change or die. One suggestion – retail should gather around transport hubs (ie tube and rail stations). Speakers suggested opening up the High Street to services, community services more open space and entertainment and limiting or stopping traffic. The community should be the ones to come up with answers. Agreement that business rates and appeals system needed changing, also use-class reform, and change of hours in leases to suit changing local population during the day and evening – lobbying occurring in all these areas.
13 Committee membership (RW)
Letter in Camden New Journal seeking members from businesses (RW) (http://camdennewjournal.com/article/how-businesses-can-play-an-active-part-in-the-community?sp=1&sq=Kentish%2520Town%2520Neighbourhood%2520Forum)
Virginia Beardshaw is standing down from the committee
Fabrizio is moving to Archway – but asked to continue as an advisor/observer
ACTION: Roger is contacting David Jockelson re future involvement
14 AGM date
The date is 24 January at Kentish Town Library 7-8.30PM
KTNF is seeking representation with Mayors Office (GLA) to discuss Kentish Town Potential Development Area; Henry and Roger met with local MP Keir Starmer, who is resident in the forum area to acquaint him with KTNF’s proposals for the KTPDA and show him the architects’ drawings KTNF has had prepared.
Camden Civic Society expressed concerns over HS2 and Euston development (Robert)
Transport Consultation – Liz is writing response on behalf of KTNF (to be circulated prior to submission) (https://consultations.wearecamden.org/supporting-communities/camden-transport-strategy/consult_view/)
ACTION: Liz to circulate committee the draft response
KTNF (IG) attended Save Camden Trees meeting set up by BARA resident Harvey Flinder. Meeting called by HF, attended by two ward councillors and around 30 others. Report produced on FoI requests, Camden Open Data and other contributions. Camden’s policy is twice yearly pollarding of trees based on a policy of defendable claims v subsidence. Contention is this policy denudes streets of tree cover and the benefits of air quality, shade, habitat etc; and kills some trees. Comparison with three neighbouring boroughs demonstrates the extent of stripping and topping is unnecessary – Camden has same low rate of tree related subsidence as its neighbours who do not routinely pollard their mature trees. Call has been made on Council to amend its current Tree Policy.
KTNF (IG) attended an NLA round-table on Neighbourhood Forums in London 5 years on. Reps from several NFs discussed issues. Trend for NFs to become parish councils due to easier administration and access to funding. Being written up in New London Quarterly.
LATEST MINUTES: KENTISH TOWN NEIGHBOURHOOD FORUM
Committee Meeting – 7pm – 9pm, Thursday 19 July 2018 at The Vine, 86 Highgate Road, NW5 1PB
Present: Roger, Paul, Ian, Chris, Robert, Fabrizio
1 Apologies: Celia, Joanna, Derek, Virginia, Henry, Alice, Liz
2 Conflicts of interest:
Roger asked committee members who are involved in other Kentish Town groups to state if they see those groups duplicating projects of KTNF.
3 Minutes of last meeting (10 May) and matters arising:
- Roger to send Gus of Kentish Town City Farm – map in the plan RW
- Air pollution: KTNF to stress anti-air pollution measures in new buildings in planning application responses such as electric car points, energy efficiency, renewables and low NOx boilers All
- Environment and environmental protection to be stressed in our responses to the Kentish Town Planning Framework All
- Look into promoting the closure of Kentish Town Road on specific day/days (Sunday(s) PS
- Discover location of Camden’s last mile park for delivery lorries and promote to wider list IG
- Write to TFL asking to extend rent bike scheme to Kentish Town Road RW
4 Welcome Joanna Chow as new committee member
5 Update on Regis Road/Framework (RW)
Three meetings and walkabout so far; Camden Council presented its compilation of the workshops to date; Still fair amount to be completed including data on housing need, new schools and health facilities. Major changes: the relocation of industrial/employment space next to the rail line largely due to traffic/transport issues; the Veolia waste site is out of play; the edges of the development areas – not covered.
KTNF to compile a list of points arising from workshop to send to Camden and request to see Camden’s plan in greater detail RW
6 Greening Kentish Town Road and CIL (IG)
KTNF invited to and ultimately led a walkabout looking at potential location of greenery with three councillors, and five people from three Camden Council departments from the proposals presented. Green Space explained no trees to be planted due to underground services; but general agreement on planters and bike planters. More planned for the Old Post Office side (3:1) due to width of pavements. Proposal is being discussed among councillors and Camden officers. Canteloes ward councillor wants to part-fund the scheme. KTNF is minded to part-fund through CIL and waiting for costings prior to progressing an application.
7 Ingestre (AB)
KTNF advised that it shouldn’t accept the current plan and should wait for a planning application to be submitted.
8 Pubs as ACVs (CH)
Working group formed, met 11 July; Paul, Chris, Roger (KTNF), Caroline Hill (KTRA), Caz Stuart (local resident), Lindsey Purchall (KTRA). Absent-, Derek (KTNF). Context – Implementation of policy in Neighbourhood Plan. Andrew Triggs, principal planning officer at Camden Council in charge of ACV applications, confirmed KTNF is an eligible group to apply for ACVs. Actual pub visits and desk research planned. Next meeting 8 August.
An email to be sent to members requesting evidence of local pubs social and community value (IG).
9 Car Wash site (RW)
Camden Council willing to accept a planning application for the car wash site; accepted that it is not linked to the re-development of the Regis Road site and will not affect green access ways.
10 Updates on 3-6 Spring Place (AB) and Carpetright and Pizza Express (VB)
Brockton Capital is seeking changes to the consented scheme at Spring Place. Change in elevational treatment and the loss the link between Grafton Road and Spring Place are the most significant issues; Paul to liaise with Alice to submit KTNF’s comments. Virginia not present to report.
11 Comms (IG)
Website up to date. Ian thanked for his work on this.
12 Raising KTNF profile and fundraising
Current activities – Pubs as ACVs and Greening Kentish Town Road are raising KTNF profile. Roger also wrote to CNJ about step free access at KT station.
The Vine has been very accommodating to KTNF. Roger encouraged members to reciprocate by buying drinks.RW
14 Date of next meeting 2018 8 November. The Vine.